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Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« on: January 23, 2011, 08:05:21 AM »
Rick sent me some info about polishing the guts of the Jewells to smooth them out.  I did 2 last year but was a bit skeptical as I did not have a spare at hand if I did something WRONG.  Well I took my new spare and tore into it.  What a difference.  Very basic stuff.

I will share the info if you feel adventurous.  This was information from a post on BR Central by Jack Neary.

OK... Here's your trigger improvement tip for the day from my new weekly anal Reloading Show on PBS network!

DISCLAIMER: Do Not Use Bullseye Powder to fix your trigger! (Sorry, Jackie... I saw the shot and I took it!)

First... get a clean white towel (please avoid taking the nice new bathroom towel with your bride's name on it to use for this operation....trust me here, guys!)
Lay your grit-filled trigger on your clean white towel (You can see the little parts better a white towel... just a tip from the trades) as it will help to keep all the parts from bouncing underneath your workbench 

Next.... You must use a proper fitting Phillip screw driver (I bought a Husky Pro #544-572 #1 tip Phillips screwdriver from Home Depot that fits the screws in the Jewell perfectly, this is extremely important, so you don't turn your Jewell BR trigger phillips-heads into allen-head screws!) and take the trigger completely apart apart and clean it with Lacquer Thinner (also available at HD, if I didn't already buy it all!)

Please take note to see if your trigger hanger came off your trigger with SOME drag or tighlty(Most do!), it is caused by 1 of the small Phillips screws slightly protruding above the surface of the top trigger-plate, which causes rubbing on the inside of the trigger-hanger). If left unchecked, this protruding phillips screw may cause your trigger plate to slightly pinch and bind your top-lever of your trigger, just a tiny amount, to cause drag, which creates poor ignition (big damn groups!).

This can be fixed, if you carefully hold the screw and rub it on some 600-800 grit metal sandpaper, attached to a flat-surface (kitchen counter top is ideal surface.... especially if your less than BR understanding wife is over at her mother's house!) with some double-sided tape. Lightly sand just enough to de-burr the the top of the phillip screw, so when you put your trigger back togther the trigger hanger EASILY slides over the side-plates of your trigger. Aaaaahhh Nice!!

It's probably important now to tell you to please take care to not lose the small spring behind the trigger shoe when you remove it from the dowel pin that holds it in place. (If anyone should need replacment Jewell trigger spring, please feel free to call Joe Krupa to have him ship you one, at N/C, as I have given him at least 11 replacement springs and misc. Jewell parts...over the last 2 years....%$#@!)

If you're unsure of the state of the operation of your Jewell BR trigger and its effect on your iginition, look at the inside of each side plate. If you are seeing deep radius scratch/drag marks, from where the top-lever is rubbing, this is definetly NOT helping your guns agging potential!! I humbly believe my advice could very much improve your ignition, through eliminating some unexplained lost and stupid shots out of your groups!

Next, HAND polish (no rasp file needed here, guys!) the inside trigger side-plates and top lever with Flitz (available at better stores everywhere, but never close to your house...?) on a polishing cloth, wrapped on a piece of flat bar-stock (or get a piece of glass-plate and LIGHTLY rub the side plates on a polishing cloth (with Flitz) laid on top of the glass plate. This will make your Jewell side-plates silky smooth! (and also make huge mess!). Note, this VERY important as your cocking piece on your bolt is pressing the top lever in your trigger slightly to the left, as your bolt is being cocked. Polishing the side plates of the inside of your triggers will reduce the friction from the force of the cocking piece and promote quicker lock-time/ignition... Also check your internal small levers and the top lever for burs, again, LIGHTLY polish with Flitz... (Show sponsor, what can I say?)

THOROUGHLY clean with Lacquer Thinner (while beling very careful not to spill the whole damn can of Lacquer Thinner while neck-turning at 3:00AM (are you listening Allen Tucker?)on the nice, new Cherry finished Desk in your hotel room (Please e-mail me for a picture), and removing ALL of the beautiful Cherry finish, like room #726 at the lovely new Holiday Inn Suites Hotel, in Charlottesville, VA (That's another story we'll save for later on....)

Anyway, once you have thoroughly cleaned all of the parts, take some LIGHT oil, yes, I said oil, NOT lighter fluid..... Tom Meridith's new TM oil is perfect! (Potential show sponsor)) and VERY LIGHTLY coat both sides of all of the trigger parts with oil and put it back together, CAREFULLY (being careful not to have any left-over parts!) The diagram that came with your trigger is easy, even for me, to follow (I like pictures!)

Take a minute to test your new super-slick trigger, before you put it back in your gun, to ensure the top-lever drops with no resistance or dragging when you press gently on the trigger!

Not trying to open Pandora's box here.... but, some of todays scope problems can be amazingly fixed with better ignition derived from a proper working trigger!

Replace back in your BR rifle. You may possibly need to make only a slight adjustment to the pull weight... Now go out and win some 2-guns with your improved Jewell Trigger! 




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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 08:14:57 AM »
All good points, I know, have been doing it for decades.  Re trigger spring, if you get screwed losing the spring, a BICK lighter spring is so close that you could use it temporarily. Just talked to AJ about 5 mins ago.

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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 09:16:09 AM »
Bill if one called Jewell and wanted some spare internals will they sell them? 

You know levers, trigger shoe, springs etc....

Calvin
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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 06:23:24 PM »
Calvin, is this something that is needed to be done on most Jewell triggers.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 07:01:57 PM »
Calvin, I got some side plate screws and a spring from Jewell a couple of years ago.  Just phoned them up, gave my credit card/shipping info and a while later an envelope showed up in my mailbox.
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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 07:10:53 PM »
James more than likely not.  I am just a STICKLER for having things as best they can be.

I have 3 Jewells for the BR rifles and they all feel slightly different.  

The biggest I find is the trigger shoe return spring.  I would like to get all new ones, but of the same lot of spring.  Two feel pretty close to the same.  The other is a bit heavier becasue if I lower the pull weight to make it feel the same there is not enough spring force to reset the sear.  

The 2 triggers that are on the rifles have about the same amount of slop on the trigger shoe.  My new spare is tighter and I cannot tighten the screws on the side plates to much or it will bind.

If you have a new trigger and pull the trigger shoe as if firing it feels slightly gritty.  After you take it appart and polish with Flitz and some 1500 Grit (wet), it feels as Jack says above "almost silky".  Pull the trigger after polishin and the gritty feel is ALL GONE.  

The biggest thing I think is as Jack mentioned about the Firing Pin Block not having any friction on the sides of it so it drops with the least amount of resistance possible and possibly more consistently.

Calvin  
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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 07:21:20 PM »
Is it better to work on a trigger that is used so you can see the wear marks and see what has to be polished.

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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 10:22:46 PM »
As far as I am concerned it does not matter new or used.  If one feels up to the challenge I say do it.
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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 07:59:14 PM »
I put the spare trigger that I polished into one of the rifles this evening.  All I can say is WOW.............  I thought the other 2 were nice but this is nice.  The feeling is as if there is nothing there.  Calvin is very HAPPY.

I spent extra time polishing with the Flitz on the spare than I did with the other 2.  I am going to pull the trigger off of my other rifle and spend more time on it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 08:37:14 PM »
Hey Calvin, are you looking for a small part time job?

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 08:41:04 PM »
I polished and tuned up my trigger following the instructions above.  The trigger now feels better than ever.  While dry-firing the rifle the striker seams to drop with noticeably more force.  The trigger pull is crisp and consistent. I was surprised how rough the internal surfaces of the trigger were. I think the sear engagement surfaces had worn over time and that is at least part of the reason why my Jewel trigger was out of tune.

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Re: Jewell Trigger's Now YOU can make them better
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2011, 09:08:26 PM »
Lawrence, when you mentioned drop with more force, THAT IS IT EXACTLY.  I was not able to put my finger on it. 

When I read what you wrote it all made sense.  I thought something sounded different when I dry fired.  The firing pin has a definate, more noticeable, snap to it when the trigger is pulled.

Tommorrows project, trigger number 2.
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